A question about Incense & Peaches

  • I recently bought a used copy of Incense & Peaches but I'm not sure it's the real thing. I heard about a bootleg floating around so I'm wondering if someone who ownes the original release or the bootleg (if such does exist), could describe them or maybe post some photos? I've looked around on the Net but no-one shows more than the front cover...

  • I've never seen a genuine copy or found one online. Tell a lie, I saw one once, but it was going for about £100... and I don't have that kind of money.

    I know there's a Russian boot of I&P doubled with A Soulful Christmas that sometimes gets sold on eBay. I'm afraid as I've never come across a copy I was forced to download it (which is prefereable to paying money to bootleggers). But if it ever gets an official re-release or I find an affordable copy I will most definitely buy it.

  • But how exactly does a genuine copy look? I did a seach on eBay and found this copy, the lister says it's genuine but I don't know since I don't know what genuine looks like... :)

    http://cgi.ebay.com/Glenn-Hugh…ZWD1VQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

    My personal guess is that there's got to be some easy way to tell apart the genuine copy and the bootleg. Maybe the numbers at the centre of the "music-side" of the CD itself?

  • Hi there,
    The inlay looks genuine - all details including the barcode are correct. The price and the seller's feedback also point to a genuine copy.
    The "matrix" number on the CD itself can only be read from the silver side of the disc (in reverse) and consists of 2 blocks of letter/number combinations (5 each) plus one block that simply says GLENNHUGHES (those blocks are divided by one ">" each) and another block of 4 letters. I don't know if those differ from copy to copy.
    I can only repeat David's suggestion - either go for a cheaper boot, or maybe wait/hunt for the rare opportunity to get a genuine copy much cheaper.
    Keep your eyes open and save the search for Incense and Peaches in your My eBay section of the site. Tick the e-mail alert box whenever an item matching your search appears on the site.
    Also, try gemm and watch amazon's marketplace.
    Happy hunting!

    Cheers,
    Christian

  • IF you are willing to wait, try http://www.musicfinder.com . They are actually Bananas records in St. Pete, Florida. If they don't have it in stock, you can have them search and they WILL find what you are looking for. I have gotten some great stuff there over the years (the $1.00 bins are loaded with great albums), and they found the Greenslade :clapper: and Amon Duul :bouncer: vinyl I wanted in less than a week for good prices, and the editions I specified.

    They will guarantee you are getting what you want (at least when you go in the shop, not sure about mail order) and no boots or BS copies.

    Give it a try...it can't hurt.

    Frank:div27:
    "if only we'd turn around and notice the door to the cell is open"

  • Quote from arthur_shapoval

    But how exactly does a genuine copy look? I did a seach on eBay and found this copy, the lister says it's genuine but I don't know since I don't know what genuine looks like... :)

    http://cgi.ebay.com/Glenn-Hugh…ZWD1VQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

    My personal guess is that there's got to be some easy way to tell apart the genuine copy and the bootleg. Maybe the numbers at the centre of the "music-side" of the CD itself?



    That appears to be the genuine product.....of course my copy has Glenn's signature on the back cover......

  • The vinyl sound is meant to be that way....not a defect or anything like that. It's on all the discs.

    As to "why" it's on there, I don't know.

    Chip

  • I thought there was something wrong with my CD so I downloaded different mp3-versions (and even a wave-version) of the album but they all turned out to have the same annoying noise. Maybe there was some screw up in the mastering process?

    Surely there couldn't have been any intention of recreating the vinyl sound on a CD? That would kind of miss out on the whole point of a CD - which among other things consists of getting rid of the vinyl noise.

  • Thanks both. :)

    I thought it was a fault at first too, until I found someone else with a copy and realised it wasn't. I've heard other CDs that use a "worn vinyl" sound to good effect but I think it detracts from this song. I'm still intrigued as to why it was done.

  • That vinyl sound has been a pretty common effect for years - since the mid nineties actually, though it had been already used (not as much and intentional as later) as an effect before.
    When electronic music, Trip Hop or Hip Hop found out about the never ending commercial potential of sampling, the vinyl sound found its way even into the Top Charts and became a well favoured and much used effect.
    Remember hits Portishead's "Glory Box",
    or Mr. Scruff's "Gotta Move On"?
    Or anything by Norman Cook aka Fatboy Slim? He already used vinyl sounds in Beats International - and that was in 1989!
    Most keyboard/rack sound modules haves vinyl sound samples presets saved.
    Again, it's an effect. Nothing faulty with your discs.

    Cheers,
    Christian

  • Quote from arthur_shapoval

    I thought there was something wrong with my CD so I downloaded different mp3-versions (and even a wave-version) of the album but they all turned out to have the same annoying noise. Maybe there was some screw up in the mastering process?

    Surely there couldn't have been any intention of recreating the vinyl sound on a CD? That would kind of miss out on the whole point of a CD - which among other things consists of getting rid of the vinyl noise.



    Remember Incense and Peaches has a 70's sound and vibe to it,just like Soul Mover and Songs in the key of Rock!So I can understand why the vinyl cracking effects are in the song.It's different and I like it.I have heard other artists do this as well!

  • OK, now I see that we are talking about two different issues here. I'm NOT talking about the obvious vinyl effect at the start of Inside & Above (and some other tracks). I'm talking about the VERY, VERY quite clicks that are present throughout the whole CD. You've got to listen through headphones, maybe more than a couple of times but they are there.

    Don't know if I'm making myself perfectly clear here but maybe someone else knows what I'm talking about? These clicks could of course be part of the vinyl effect and I'm just paranoid... :1:

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